Crassus
8:42 Wed Jun 14
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Reports of an exploding fridge apparently
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Westham67
8:45 Wed Jun 14
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w4hammer 8:08 Wed Jun 14
That was mentioned in the early reports. Got 9/11 feeling about this fucking scary
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PwoperNaughtyButNot
8:46 Wed Jun 14
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Crassus they installed raid screen cladding. If recently done the materials would have been tested beyond belief so shouldn't have been that combustible.
The refurb also remodelled the inside and created new living spaces. I'd hazard a guess that this remodel created easy routes for fire and could be where the problem is.
I wouldn't rule out foul play either but I doubt if someone set the fire they would have imagined the extent of it
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stoneman
8:46 Wed Jun 14
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No deaths reported yet, maybe they all made it out?
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DagenhamDave
8:50 Wed Jun 14
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w4hammer 8:08 Wed Jun 14
Bloody hell that is eerily prescient.
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Westham67
8:50 Wed Jun 14
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stoneman 8:46 Wed Jun 14
I doubt anyone has been in there to look for bodies yet. Early reports spoke of people trapped and signaling at the windows with the light on their mobile phone
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Crassus
8:53 Wed Jun 14
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PwoperNaughtyButNot 8:46 Wed Jun 14
Cap doffed to greater knowledge, but the one consistent report is the absolute rapid speed of the fire's spread and the external burn - don't doubt you mind, just repeating that reported
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side effect
8:54 Wed Jun 14
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Silly question but why not send raf chinooks and s a r helicopters out there to air lift people to safety just in case.
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Crassus
8:55 Wed Jun 14
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stoneman 8:46 Wed Jun 14
Plenty made it out, by jumping. Not at all good. Will be a huge casualty count.
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Sven Roeder
9:00 Wed Jun 14
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Bloody hell
Everyone talking about how quickly it spread.
Makes your blood run cold thinking of being up the top with no way out just waiting.
30 people taken to hospital but no word on how many unaccounted for.
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Private Dancer
9:01 Wed Jun 14
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It only seems to be the one person, on the 11th floor, visibly appealing for help, so would that suggest most of the others inside have perished, or got out? You'd think there would be more than one visible person.
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Westham67
9:02 Wed Jun 14
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BBC correspondent Simon Lederman said he understood "a significant number of people" were unaccounted for.
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Trevor B
9:03 Wed Jun 14
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You would imagine that's pretty obvious considering there are 120 flats there and most residents would've been in bed asleep when the fire started. Cracking reporting from the BBC there.
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Johnson
9:03 Wed Jun 14
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Side effect - fella on the news said helicopters would create different draughts that won't help when containing the fire.
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PwoperNaughtyButNot
9:05 Wed Jun 14
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That maybe the case and if so the contractor and material supplier / manufacturer will have some serious questions to answer. This won't be the only place with this rain screen cladding so it will have to be removed from other buildings asap
Shocking that this happens in 2017
I'd put it down to the following with no knowledge and just assumption
- 70s build was neglectful and costa were cut on materials. Lots of backhanders to councilers I the 60s and 70s high rise concrete boom
- living conditions and build up of rubbish / combustible materials across many floors
- hot day so fire doors held open in corridors. This happens and lot and ironically they are usually held open by fire extinguishers. You may even see this in your office etc
- new refurb remodelled the interior to create more flats and therefore more income. This could have created new and easier flows for fire to spread
- council in desperation for housing space signs off all new works as the benefit is greater than the risk
- faulty or cheap unregulated materials for the newly installed outer cladding
- electrics tampered with which hampered fire alarms. It's not unknown for people to plug into electrical supply to avoid bills. This is usually tapping into a street light or a neighbours supply.
- deilibarte fire to prove a point perhaps. Think that scummy dad with all his kids and wives in Derby that wanted a better council house so burnt his down.
Any one of the above would cause a risk. Start to combine a few and it is a recipe for disaster.
I just hope everyone made it out and this win hospital recover.
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Eindhoven Hammer
9:06 Wed Jun 14
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Side Effect,
I'd say because the blades will fan the flames and smoke even more. Too dangerous mate.
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BubblesCyprus
9:06 Wed Jun 14
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As it is Ramadan wouldn't half of the residents been awake at that time ??
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stoneman
9:11 Wed Jun 14
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My money is on arson, someone wanting to prove a point about safety.
A potentially small fire got out of hand very quickly.
I can't believe firefighters are going inside the building when it's a collapse risk, balls of steel those guys.
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PwoperNaughtyButNot
9:13 Wed Jun 14
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That blog predicts it would happen. The writer will be questioned by the dibble I'm sure
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East Auckland Hammer
9:17 Wed Jun 14
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Awful news.
When I lived in the UK, London especially, I often wondered about those tower blocks and just how safe they were.
Poor people.
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wanstead_hammer
9:18 Wed Jun 14
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Harrowing stuff. Terrible.
Hope as many as possible got out safe and sound.
Fire Brigade doing their utmost best, as usual.
Unsung heros.
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